Laura Munson Interview FlyGirls Media

Laura Munson:: Author, Storyteller, Lecturer, Teacher

RE:Write

I had lunch the other day with Laura at a local Whitefish hangout where I got the chance to talk with her about her new book, Willa's Grove, as well as to catch up on each other's lives (post baseball season!).

There was a lot of laughter balanced by a healthy stream of tears. My greatest takeaway from our time together was how wonderful it was just to hang out as women and not as Moms. The conversation was more real and meaningful.

What I've always admired about Laura is her wonderful ability to use her creative talents to write her truth and to honor all of her experiences exactly as they are.

I finished Willa's Grove, last night and loved it!  It's a beautiful story of four women gathering together, creating community and forging honest connections.  It reaffirmed my belief that we are better together and that by sharing our stories we can find deeper connections with others.

"You know...we're all fluent in this language.

In the language of community. And yet we so rarely speak it.

It really is our mother tongue." - Willa's Grove

LAURA's WHY

"I write to shine a light on a dim or otherwise pitch black corner to provide relief for myself and others. Here is why I lead writing retreats and programs: People need to know they have a unique and essential voice. When our collective knows this, we will be having the community connection that our civilization so dearly needs."

 


Describe the moment when you knew something in your life needed to change? Was it a strategic move or a reaction to a life event or just a natural progression? 

There have been many moments in my life when I knew it was time for change.

I've re-invented myself over and over since I was a young woman. I'm no stranger to re-invention and I'm not scared of it.

I love finding creative solutions to problems that might otherwise stop me. That's how I ended up being a writer. How I ended up in Montana. How I ended up as a teacher and retreat leader. How I ended up on the speaking circuit. How I travel and how I see the world.

It's all an act of re-invention. It's been my best teacher. When I see myself hitting up against a wall, then I know it's time for some creative re-working of my life.

I welcome it!

Give us an idea of your life's trajectory from the kid you remembered to the woman you are now? Are you right where you thought you'd be or are you surprised by the transition?

I've never really been a future thinker. I've spent too long looking in the rearview mirror and have worked hard to focus on the present moment.

When I was a child, I wanted to be famous one day. But once I claimed the writing life (or maybe it claimed me), I realized that it was about learning my craft and how to access my muse at all times. That was the work.

Does it surprise me that I have gained commercial success as an author? Sometimes. But I don't linger there too long. It's time to go back in the cave and write another book.

How did Haven Writing Retreats get started?

After my memoir, "This Is Not The Story You Think It Is" became a New York Times best-seller, I suddenly was on the speaking circuit and I discovered a common theme:

women are starving for a more authentic and powerful way of expressing themselves.

But they are so stuck and for the most part, for the same reasons. I heard these refusals over and over:

"Who do I think I am? I'm not an authority on this subject-- I mean I don't have letters after my name in this field. I was raised with 'speak when spoken to,' and 'don't show off,' and "seen but not heard."'

And I realized that women need to be having these conversations and they need to be doing it in small, intimate, well-guided settings, and maybe even far away from home.

So I put it on Facebook one day: "Hey-- who wants to come on a writing retreat with me in Montana?" And in two hours, 24 people signed up. And Haven was born. That was 8 years ago and Haven has served 1000 alums, in my now 5 programs. I've seen it change lives over and over.

What's the biggest surprise or 'aha' moments you've had since starting Haven? 

That often times for real shifts and changes to happen for people, they need to be away from the people in their daily lives, outside of their comfort zone, and in the wilderness where the lessons are served up every moment.

You just have to take a pause from your life, immerse yourself, and pay attention.

People so often become islands when they are going through crossroads moments or big changes in their lives. You don't have to do it alone. You can come to Haven, learn your heart language, and get the support you deserve.

I set out to lead a "writing retreat." That was it. But after my first retreat I realized that this work is about a LOT more than writing. It's about learning to live in your truth and your flow.

We talk a lot about the "creative process" but what does it personally mean to you?


There are many ways to be in a creative process, and it's important to find a way to express yourself that truly feeds you. For me, it's by using the written and spoken word.
It means showing up at the intersection of heart and mind and craft that is the writing life. And it means to honor it as not just words, but as a meditation, a prayer, a practice, a way of life, and sometimes a way TO life.

Tell me about a failure that you learned from?

I've written MANY books since I graduated from college in 1988 and claimed the writing life with all my heart.

Two of those books are published. Five or so that aren't published are good. I intend on getting those published. The rest are exercises in learning. Does that mean that I feel like those books are a failure? No. They are what taught me how to be the writer that I am. I didn't submit all of those books for publication, but the ones that were submitted and rejected of course hurt because I wanted them to land in people's hearts.

That said, those rejections don't take away what I learned from them. They made me a better writer. They made me fight harder to learn my craft. And ultimately they've taught me that I can't control the outcome of my books. Even if they're published, I can't control whether or not people like them or loathe them.

All I can control is writing the best book I can in the way that only I can write it. And that's good news. We can control the process and that helps me let go of what society calls "success" and "failure."

It's about doing the work. Period.

What motivates or inspires you?

Writing is my lifeline. I need it to navigate this beautiful and heartbreaking thing called life.

Name 1 or 2 women who you admire?

Terry Tempest Williams and my mother.

If you could look back and give yourself some advice what would you tell your younger self?

Success and failure are myths. Love the work. Because you're going to have a lot of rejections. And you're going to have a lot of success. And none of it ultimately defines you.

Take heart: and write.

What advice do you think your older self would tell you now at this moment in your life?

Try to have some FUN promoting your book this time! Enjoy it. You've worked hard. You're its messenger. That's all.

Be a good messenger, enjoy being its messenger, and get back to work on your next book.

Tell me about the inspiration for your new book, Willa's Grove? And did you have a "So now what?" moment?

The idea came to me after leading one of my Haven Writing Retreats in Montana. Over and over I hear, “This just changed my life.” Or “From now on it’s before Haven and after Haven.” Or “Yes, this was about writing, but it’s about so much more.”

And I thought, How can I possibly capture the magic of what happens when people come together far from home, to powerfully and intentionally tap into the essence of their self-expression, their voices, their heart language?

How can I show how essential temporary community can be?

How can I call people to take this stand for themselves—especially when they feel alone or misunderstood or isolated in their lives?

How can I make a case for bridging to people outside your daily life in order to bridge more authentically back to your home community?

And these four women were born. This book is in no way about a writing retreat. But I hope that the spirit of what happens at Haven…happens in the pages of Willa’s Grove.

And yes, Haven was born out of the need I saw for self-expression when I was on the road promoting my memoir...but it was also born out of one of the greatest "so now what" moments of my life.

I needed a consistent income to keep my children's and my life stable in post-divorce reinvention. I asked myself what my talents and passions were. And with the nudging of a few good friends, I stepped into a new role as a teacher and retreat facilitator.

Outside of my motherhood and my writing, it's the most important work I've done so far in my life.